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Oil Filter Too Big?

Post by FFS » Thu Jul 06, 2017 4:58 pm

First time post...& first time I attempted to do an oil change on my sisters 2005 Freestyle AWD....key word being "attempted!" According to official Ford website...& the sites of EVERY auto parts store, the correct oil filter is Motorcraft #FL-820S. Well, after purchasing this filter, & draining oil, I look at the filter that's on the vehicle now, & it's way smaller than the FL-820S! I returned filter to Pep Boys. They cross-checked with VIN & same # comes up. What gives?! :(

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Re: Oil Filter...Help!

Post by Webmaster » Thu Jul 06, 2017 6:27 pm

You should have put it on. Obviously the smaller filter isn't doing as good of a job. What brand and part number is the small filter?

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Post by pmassey31545 » Thu Jul 06, 2017 6:35 pm

820S. Definitely the right filter. Same one on my 2007 AWD Limited...and my 2002 F150 coincidentally.
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Re: Oil Filter...Help!

Post by FFS » Thu Jul 06, 2017 6:46 pm

Webmaster wrote:You should have put it on. Obviously the smaller filter isn't doing as good of a job. What brand and part number is the small filter?
It wouldn't have worked. The diameter of the 820S is too wide. If it was just the length, it wouldn't be a problem. The small filter is some generic pos installed my some local garage no longer here.

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Post by Webmaster » Thu Jul 06, 2017 10:56 pm

Did you actually try to screw it on? Hmmmm

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Re: Oil Filter...Help!

Post by FFS » Fri Jul 07, 2017 12:31 am

Webmaster wrote:Did you actually try to screw it on? Hmmmm
No, didn't want to remove it before I got proper size. It was obvious it was too wide.

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Re: Oil Filter...Help!

Post by jas88 » Fri Jul 07, 2017 5:19 am

And you cannot conceive that someone else put the wrong filter on? 820S is the correct filter.
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Re: Oil Filter...Help!

Post by FFS » Fri Jul 07, 2017 11:59 am

jas88 wrote:And you cannot conceive that someone else put the wrong filter on? 820S is the correct filter.
Yes, I can conceive that. What I cannot conceive is installing a filter that is 5" in diameter on a base that is 3 1/2". It would be very messy....not to mention using a qt. of oil every 5 minutes :lol:

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Post by Webmaster » Fri Jul 07, 2017 12:32 pm

Compare the mating surfaces, oil gasket diameter, etc. and not just the case size.

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Re: Oil Filter Too Big?

Post by FFS » Fri Jul 07, 2017 12:46 pm

Webmaster wrote:Compare the mating surfaces, oil gasket diameter, etc. and not just the case size.
Yes, that's what I did.

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Post by Webmaster » Fri Jul 07, 2017 3:04 pm

Strange. Is it possible the engine is not original or correct for the vehicle? Should have posted a picture side by side with the two filters so we can see... hindsight is 20/20.... If you have the right engine, the FL820S will work.

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Post by mlacomb » Sat Jul 08, 2017 7:05 pm

I had valvoline do an oil change on my wife's Freestyle years ago (winter and I didn't feel like changing it in the detached garage.) Once spring came around, I changed the oil and the filter was what you described - VERY small. I have pictures somewhere, but it had to be about 3/4 the size of the FL-820S.

If you look at the gasket on the FL-820S and the pep boys filter, you'll see they line up exactly - otherwise you'd have a huge oil leak right now. The FL-820S gasket sits inside about an inch, so the filter case hangs over the edge of the mating surfaces.

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Re: Oil Filter Too Big?

Post by FFS » Tue Jul 11, 2017 9:37 pm

Webmaster wrote:Strange. Is it possible the engine is not original or correct for the vehicle? Should have posted a picture side by side with the two filters so we can see... hindsight is 20/20.... If you have the right engine, the FL820S will work.
You are correct! Really didn't look like it would. Went back to auto parts store & purchased the FL820S...again. Here are pics of the little filter that was installed previously compared to the 820S I just installed.
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Re: Oil Filter Too Big?

Post by FFS » Tue Jul 11, 2017 9:38 pm

mlacomb wrote:I had valvoline do an oil change on my wife's Freestyle years ago (winter and I didn't feel like changing it in the detached garage.) Once spring came around, I changed the oil and the filter was what you described - VERY small. I have pictures somewhere, but it had to be about 3/4 the size of the FL-820S.

If you look at the gasket on the FL-820S and the pep boys filter, you'll see they line up exactly - otherwise you'd have a huge oil leak right now. The FL-820S gasket sits inside about an inch, so the filter case hangs over the edge of the mating surfaces.
You're right! Thanks!

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