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Transmission Cooler Leaking

cyearns
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Transmission Cooler Leaking

Post by cyearns » Thu Jun 02, 2011 7:59 am

Hello all. I just recently purchased a 2008 Taurus X Limited with 75k on it. Both the antifreeze and transmission fluid needed changed, so I brought it in to Valvoline (not a huge fan of those kind of stores, but everyone else was closed and it needed to get done).

After the change I noticed a leak in on the passenger side near the radiator. After further inspection I noticed it was leaking from the actual transmission cooler, which is embedded into to the A/C Condenser. Price to fix from my mechanic - $550 ish (which includes recharging the a/c system). According to Valvoline, they don't remove any lines to do a transmission flush, just suck it out of the dip stick....

So questions now:

1. I see this was a common failure on 2008 Escapes (To the point that Ford issued a "Customer Satisfaction program to fix or reimburse customers that had the repair done), but only found one other report of another Taurus X's transmission cooler leaking online. Is this a common problem with the Taurus X, or am I just "lucky"?

2. I've considered bypassing the transmission cooler internal to the a/c condenser altogether with an external one for better cooling (obviously a good sized cooler would be required since it would completely bypassed). Thoughts?

3. I've read that the Escapes had a revised part issued that included a rubber mount to isolate the cooler/condenser from vibrations. Was there a revised part issued for the Taurus X that anyone knows about?

4. If vibration is really what is causing the failure on these, aren't I risking eventual a/c condenser failure if I don't replace the condenser?
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1996 Mercury Cougar XR7

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Re: Transmission Cooler Leaking

Post by cyearns » Mon Jun 06, 2011 8:35 am

No thoughts from anyone? :(
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Re: Transmission Cooler Leaking

Post by rtg143 » Mon Jun 06, 2011 8:26 pm

The only service bulletin they have for the Taurus X is : TSB 08-20-7 6F50 -TRANSMISSION COOLER LINES - SERVICED AS AN ASSEMBLY How much did they charge for the trans service? Can you get the machine name and model?
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Re: Transmission Cooler Leaking

Post by cyearns » Mon Jun 06, 2011 8:41 pm

I got a coolant flush for $89 and the transmission fluid change for $109. Normally the transmission service is $129 but they gave me a discount for doing both at the same time.

I suppose I could ask for the make and model of their pump but it seems like it would be a moot point.
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Re: Transmission Cooler Leaking

Post by rtg143 » Tue Jun 07, 2011 8:04 am

The make and model would tell if they disconnected the lines.
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Re: Transmission Cooler Leaking

Post by cyearns » Tue Jun 07, 2011 9:29 am

I see your point, which was my same thought at first too, however the lines aren't leaking, it's actually leaking on the other side of the cooler.
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Re: Transmission Cooler Leaking

Post by rtg143 » Tue Jun 07, 2011 5:59 pm

If they took the lines off for the flush, could they have flexed the lines and caused the leak?
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Re: Transmission Cooler Leaking

Post by cyearns » Tue Jun 07, 2011 8:13 pm

Anything is possible, but the leak is in in the lower passenger side of the cooler. Even of the did disconnect the lines, I'm not sure how they would have caused it to leak where It is.

What about pressures? Could they some how put too much PSI on the cooler when flushing?
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Re: Transmission Cooler Leaking

Post by rtg143 » Tue Jun 07, 2011 8:43 pm

I doubt that they would. It may be the same as the Escape and since there aren't as many Xs, they haven't done anything on it yet.
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Re: Transmission Cooler Leaking

Post by Tornaboutthiscar » Thu Jul 14, 2011 12:57 pm

Well you are not the only "lucky" one. I just got a call from my ford service center and my Taurus X has multiple leaks coming from the transmission system. One of them is also in the tranny cooling system. I'm furious. The car is only 3 years old, 66K miles, which coincidently they tell me that the drive train warranty was up at 60 K miles. HMMMMMMMMM

Cost: $1700 transmission repair changing all seals (the tranny itself has not cracks)
$800 for repair of the tranny cooler

oh and then there is another $400 for the repair of the rear liftgate pistons that failed .

I googled this problem and ther seems to be plenty of complaints around on the leaky transmissions.

I will also try to call the Ford Customer Service Center

Any other advice everyone?
2008 Taurus X -- 66,000 miles
2004 Subaru Outback --120,000 miles

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Re: Transmission Cooler Leaking

Post by cyearns » Fri Jul 15, 2011 7:01 am

I just got my cooler replaced for $570. Although the tech said if he had to do it again it would cost me double as it was a pain.

If you are getting quoted dealer prices, save yourself some money and find a good independent shop.
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Re: Transmission Cooler Leaking

Post by cyearns » Fri Jul 15, 2011 7:08 am

Tornaboutthiscar wrote: oh and then there is another $400 for the repair of the rear liftgate pistons that failed .

That seems way too expensive. I haven't looked personally into replacing these, but they can't be that hard to replace. Looks like the actual lift supports are less then $50 a piece. And if they are as simple to replace as the hood lift supports on a 2002 Moutaineer, it shouldn't take more then 20 minutes AT MOST to replace.
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Re: Transmission Cooler Leaking

Post by FordTaurusX » Wed Aug 17, 2011 4:29 am

I just had the same leak in my 2008 Taurus X. The leak was on the passenger side of the trans/AC cooler/condenser. Aamco fixed it by leaving the AC Condenser in and plugging the trans fluid in and out. Then, they installed an aftermarket trans cooler. It cost me about $260. Only issue I had was they didn't tighten the clamps well and I had a leak still when I got home. I tightened them to stop the leak.

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Re: Transmission Cooler Leaking

Post by bluedog1157 » Wed Feb 15, 2012 3:45 pm

Looks like I was "lucky" too. Ford wanted almost $800 to replace the transmission cooler. The local guy that does my wife's old Volvo did the job for almost $500 less using an aftermarket cooler. Most of the cost was labor as they have to take off the front bumper to do this job.

Mechanics said they have never seen another car with the trany cooler and AC cooler together. They thought it was a silly design, and I have to agree.

Then I got "lucky" a second time. :x The left clamp let go about 200 yards from home (after a 30 mile drive) so now I have a great stripe up my driveway and a puddle under the car. And I get to drive back to the shop again tomorrow. Going to need to buy some Mecron 5 for that trip and stop a few times to fill it back up.

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Re: Transmission Cooler Leaking

Post by piratepress » Wed Feb 15, 2012 6:27 pm

We had a similar problem with the 2001 Saturn L300 we traded in on the Freestyle. It was quite common for the oil cooler to leak on it and it was a major job to replace it. That's one of the reasons we traded it in on the FS rather than pay $1600 to fix it. :lol:
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